JetKVM Mini

(jetkvm.com)

76 points | by taubek 1 hour ago

9 comments

  • Shank 1 hour ago
    I own 3 JetKVMs, of which two of them stopped working, one of which doesn't boot at all and the other that never connects to network. The third I took out of service because the keyboard wouldn't send input when it was connected for more than a couple months. I'm sure the newer hardware is better, but I'm very unhappy with my JetKVMs.
    • strathos 17 minutes ago
      FWIW, I have two JetKVMs from the original Kickstarter campaign, and both have been in continuous use since the day I received them without a single issue. So the experience definitely varies.
    • yokoprime 1 hour ago
      I've had good experiences with mine, only thing is that wifi and ethernet claims the same IP which causes my Unifi controller to freak out and send alerts
    • philjohn 1 hour ago
      I have two and one stopped working, but they were great and sent me a replacement motherboard and a toolkit to swap it over. Did you try reaching out to them?
    • skerit 1 hour ago
      At least you got them. I'm still at the "We will send you an email to do a final shipment confirmation once ready" stage.
  • tidbeck 37 minutes ago
    It is really hard to find on the site what kvm stands for. Guess people going there knows what it stands for but think it could be spelled out once at least.
    • embedding-shape 16 minutes ago
      Warning: Don't browse their documentation site, it's filled with domain-specific jargon like FPS, BIOS, LAN, HDMI and other things, and not a single one is explained first! They should clearly read "Product Websites for Dummies" again.
    • numpad0 30 minutes ago
      Keyboard Video Mouse... It's such a weird TLA that it's not felt to be worth explaining or remembering
      • codethief 14 minutes ago
        Well I came here thinking this would be about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel-based_Virtual_Machine .
      • miki_oomiri 18 minutes ago
        TLA ?
      • Hamuko 10 minutes ago
        The worst part is that there's two different KVM concepts that are pretty different. One is to bridge keyboard/video/mouse over the network to a target computer (IP KVM), and the other one is to quickly switch keyboard/video/mouse between multiple computers (KVM switch).
  • theanonymousone 1 hour ago
    It may be worth noting that this is not _that_ KVM, but this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KVM_switch

    I learnt this first myself from HN, a few months ago.

    • yonatan8070 49 minutes ago
      It not exactly a KVM switch, which allows you to have one set of keyboard, mouse, monitor connected to multiple PCs and switch between them. This is an IP KVM, which lets you send keyboard and mouse inputs and view display output remotely over the network.
      • cyh555 43 minutes ago
        Right, I was confused when it has the wifi/ethernet port
    • herrherrmann 1 hour ago
      My first thought was “ah, this must be a JVM for Kotlin by the creators of Kotlin (Jetbrains)!”
    • stingraycharles 1 hour ago
      What KVM were you thinking of, the virtualization?
  • teruakohatu 1 hour ago
    I am amazed that there is an ESP that can handle this and with just 32MB of RAM:

    https://docs.espressif.com/projects/esp-dev-kits/en/latest/e...

    • numpad0 28 minutes ago
      The only reason it had been difficult was video capture and compression. Even 32MB would be overkill if you didn't need remote screen.
    • sugarkjube 31 minutes ago
      looks nice but seems to be rather expensive
  • skolos 1 hour ago
    or make one yourself: https://github.com/espkvm/espkvm
  • noelwelsh 1 hour ago
    I have an ATEN KVM [1] that gets a solid "it does the job" from me. Occasionally a connected computer won't pick up the K, V, or M, and I'll have to reconnect a few times.

    I use it to switch between my work laptop and my personal PC, and for this situation 4K is a must have. That, and the choice of HDMI instead of DisplayPort, and things that would keep me from getting a JetKVM.

    [1]: https://www.aten.com/gb/en/products/kvm/desktop-kvm-switches...

    • layer8 2 minutes ago
      I use Aten KVM switches too, but they are a different type of product. JetKVM is for remote KVM access, not for switching between multiple computers.
  • neals 29 minutes ago
    The original one is shaped weirdly and hard to use in my unordered stack of machines and wires. I like the new shape here better.
  • mickeyp 32 minutes ago
    Meh. The challenge is 4k+ at high display frequency that doesn't cost the same as a small boat. There are gazillions of KVM switches that do 1080. That's easy.
  • LoganDark 1 hour ago
    Are there any good KVMs for gaming? Right now, I use a capture card for video, connect the mouse directly to the destination, and use a piece of software called Deskflow to transmit my keyboard. But Deskflow occasionally crashes, so it'd be nice to have a hardware solution (also that can be used for BIOS/etc). And Deskflow also won't work if I install SteamOS, once Nvidia works.

    I looked at making a solution myself, but for some reason, simulating a USB client device in software is extremely annoying, and requires specialized hardware that is also very expensive. So at that point, why not just get a KVM...

    I frequently switch between 1080p and 4K for gaming since I don't like resampling artifacts. Never found a KVM that can handle 4K properly even for productivity. The mistake can be as basic as assuming a 100% scale factor.

    • AdamGibbins 15 minutes ago
      https://www.store.level1techs.com/products/kvm do some that might be suitable, they produce some of the highest end desktop-spec KVMs I know of. They're not cheap though.
    • numpad0 23 minutes ago
      KVMs are for rebooting and recovering servers without needing physical access. Maybe you would have some chance with HDMI splitter connected with an EDID dummy plug and an HDMI-Ethernet capture encoder thing, and some dedicated KVM for just keyboard and mouse, but idk.
      • LoganDark 13 minutes ago
        For me, I want to access my physical desktop without having to keep a physically separate monitor and keyboard than my MacBook. I have the physically separate monitor and keyboard, and I actually kept it co-located with my laptop for the longest time, but it's just more convenient to not have to swap it out with the laptop to maintain good posture, etc. (I use the laptop in bed due to chronic pain/disability)
    • swiftcoder 51 minutes ago
      > simulating a USB client device ... requires specialized hardware that is also very expensive

      Pretty much any off-the-shelf SBC can present itself as a USB HID device like a keyboard. You can buy a very capable rp2040-based board for <$5.

      What part of this equation requires expensive hardware?

      • LoganDark 47 minutes ago
        The part where I want wired ethernet to that SBC, not some funky proprietary wireless chip as in ESP32. I almost found a solution, but I've been unable to get my picoprobe to properly flash and reset the board for some reason, so I haven't been able to use it for development. I'll have to troubleshoot that again sometime if I enter another bout of caring.
        • swiftcoder 37 minutes ago
          > The part where I want wired ethernet to that SBC,

          In that case the path of least resistance becomes something like a $22 NanoPi NEO (has onboard ethernet, widely used in PiKVM setups)

          • LoganDark 33 minutes ago
            Oh, you were talking about SBC, not embedded. I even echoed it, should've noticed. Whoops.

            Maybe I'll look into that, wouldn't require messing around with the picoprobe. Thanks!

    • peroo 1 hour ago
      Why do you need to use a KVM rather than Sunshine+Moonlight? That's pretty much the gold standard for remote gaming.
      • LoganDark 51 minutes ago
        The practical answer for right now is that I don't want software screen capture, but it also does not do any of the things I wanted to be able to do by having remote inputs directed to the hardware rather than simulated in software. Namely it requires software installation on the server, which means OS support becomes a thing, you can't use it in BIOS/firmware, etc.
    • noelwelsh 1 hour ago
      I don't really understand your setup, but if you throw enough money at ATEN they will be happy to give you a KVM that handles 4K @ 240Hz. Supporting high refresh rates is the main thing that would keep me from using most KVMs for gaming.
      • LoganDark 38 minutes ago
        Ah, I neglected to mention that my keyboard isn't separate hardware. I'm using the built-in keyboard and display of my laptop, and would like to continue doing so. So hardware switches that depend on dumb monitors and keyboards don't work for me (and that's why I said KVM, not switch).
    • xcafebabe 45 minutes ago
      Most KVMs that fail at 4K get the EDID wrong. They either send their own fixed one (often maxing out at 1080p or 4K30), or they reconnect the display on every switch, so the OS thinks it's a new monitor and resets your scaling. Look for one with EDID emulation.

      For high refresh 4K you also need HDMI 2.1 or DisplayPort with DSC support, and a lot of "4K" KVMs don't have it.

      Also, 1080p divides evenly into 4K, so turn on integer scaling in the Nvidia or AMD settings and 1080p will look sharp instead of blurry.

      • LoganDark 42 minutes ago
        I do use integer scaling. That's what makes 1080p bearable on my 4K display, and not other resolutions that don't divide evenly into 4K.

        An annoying quirk is that I have to use the Nvidia control panel specifically to get Windows to send a 1080p signal as otherwise, it will just upscale 1080p to a 4K signal. It makes no fucking sense to me why that would be the default but whatever.

        • KwanEsq 34 minutes ago
          Can't you do the same thing in Windows' own Advanced Display Settings, by toggling the resolution in list of modes? (I might be remembering the naming wrong). That seems to work to change the "Active Signal Resolution" or whatever it is. But perhaps the Nvidia method is faster.

          I agree that it's insane it works this way though.