GPU World

(gpuworld.org)

101 points | by simonpure 3 hours ago

15 comments

  • NitpickLawyer 43 minutes ago
    I just finished reading Service Model by Adrian Tchaikovsky [1], a really timely novel that deals with lots of open ended questions of AI, robots, humanity, control, self determination, and so on. Really recommend it if you're into these kinds of things.

    > Premise Imagine that AI frontier progress stops as of 1 September 2026: AI becomes faster and cheaper, but it never becomes superhuman or improves considerably across the board.

    I absolutely love this premise. I wrote a comment a few days ago about this very thing. I've had this "revelation" in early 2024, when using a small local model, that even if models never improve, I'd still have a few years of discovering all the things I could do with the models.

    Really cool, hopefully we get some interesting and not overwhelmingly pessimistic stories out of this project. There's enough cynicism and negativity in the world. We could use some funny takes on everyone using openclaw2040 ran by fable. Shenanigans galore.

    [1] - https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/195790861-service-mod...

    • yitchelle 5 minutes ago
      Yes, that book is a stark reminder (or prediction).
    • abrookewood 16 minutes ago
      Haven't read that one yet, but his Children of Time series is sooo good.
  • rixed 41 minutes ago
    Since the dawn of industry, people have been amazed by the new possibilities and how that would affect society once it's evenly distributed. Technical progress has been going on, percolating in every places and down to every person. Yet it's never been "evenly distributed".

    What would happen when every one would have access to Internet? How different will the world be when everyone carries a computer in their pocket? Can communicate with anyone regardless of location and language, with no intermediary? Those were questions we used to ask ourselves not so long ago. Turned out: not much have changed.

    For the future to be evenly distributed, much bigger changes will have to happen than large scale manufacture of efficient GPUs. Otherwise, tech will just be used to make sure progress and knowledge stays unevently distributed. That's the whole game of herding humans, after all; It's called "organized scarcity".

    • guax 21 minutes ago
      > not much have changed.

      So much have changed. The way we shop, travel, navigate a town, the way we socialize, receive information. My formative memory is during the transition from computers are a furniture piece and internet a thing you do to being on your pocket with constant high speed connection and the difference is incredible.

      I was also part of the people that thought everyone having access would turn out a lot better than it ended up being. I think the issue is not that it did not change much, is that good changes got offset a bit by a lot of very bad outcomes.

      No comment on the distribution and concentration part, that one I agree.

    • gwern 26 minutes ago
      > Turned out: not much have changed.

      I think the world has changed a lot since the 1980s.

      • rbanffy 19 minutes ago
        Most people still go to work every day, inequality still exists, as does famine, disease, wars…

        Our cars are cleaner, our phones are much better, our TVs much lighter and bigger.

        • cheema33 0 minutes ago
          > Most people still go to work every day..

          And trees and mountains and animals still exist...

          Rate of change, it appears, depends entirely on someone's perspective.

  • mkagenius 11 minutes ago
    > LLM use is permitted, but discouraged; we remind participants that LLM use tends to reduce originality and writing quality, and the flaws are especially obvious when LLM outputs are read as a group---unskillful use of LLMs will reduce the odds of being the best entry. We request disclosure of AI use.

    Lot of submissions won't disclose it. Wouldn't it better to run your own checker instead of asking to disclose (to be fair to everyone).. I suppose there ought to be some checker which is SOTA.

    If you anyway intend to use the checker then kindly do no ask to disclose it, coz what's the point then.

    • cheema33 5 minutes ago
      > Wouldn't it better to run your own checker instead of asking to disclose

      Do you know of a "checker" that can reliably detect AI-assisted writing with 100% accuracy? One does not exist.

      > If you anyway intend to use the checker then kindly do no ask to disclose it, coz what's the point then.

      You appear to think in absolute terms. I am guessing you are very young.

      • calmoo 1 minute ago
        Pangram is very accurate
  • orlp 5 minutes ago
    If there was a continuous 500 watt GPU per person we'd increase energy consumption by more than double.

    The continuous energy footprint per person globally averages to 356 watt currently.

  • not2b 54 minutes ago
    Hopefully in this world, someone figures out how to deliver the performance equivalent of a B300 GPU for about 1/100th the power of a current B300 (which can be up to 1400 watts), or the world will bake.
    • i5heu 8 minutes ago
      8 biillion * 1400 watts = 11.2 terawatts

      current global average electricity production = approximately 3.6 terawatts

      But then again these systems do not use 1400 watts all the time. We would probably have much more then 11.2 terawatts demand if all humans turn on all their electrical consumers at the same time.

    • avaer 46 minutes ago
      Analog AI/approximate computing? There's research into it, worth looking at if you're interested.

      The idea is you tolerate some loss/degradation (which neural networks do) but gain orders of magnitude power efficiency.

  • jdub 1 hour ago
    LLM use is permitted, but discouraged; [...] We request disclosure of AI use.

    Heh. In the future I imagine, this would be embarrassingly redundant. "Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind."

    • blkhawk 3 minutes ago
      As far as I understand the backstory of the jihad this rule was caused not by machine minds being bad but (some) humans are very shitty.
    • koolala 47 minutes ago
      It's a story writing competition...
      • jdub 40 minutes ago
        Yeah, but I'm not going to write a short story about the Butlerian Jihad's inquisitors chasing down everyone who owns a GPU for this competition.
  • divbzero 42 minutes ago
    Quite an interesting selection committee:

      Neal Stephenson
      Gwern Branwen
      Matt Huang
  • XCSme 28 minutes ago
    We can't even predict/understand our current world, yet alone the world in 20 years.

    Even if we get to one GPU pe person, it's not like that's the end state, the world constantly changes and will constantly evolve. If it stagnates too long, people get bored and a revolution would happen.

    So, whatever that world would be, it would be temporary too

    • worldsayshi 14 minutes ago
      I think the point of stories like these is to accept that the world is too complex to fit into a story but we can try to fit a part of it anyway and we might learn something from it or at least get an interesting experience.
  • newyankee 36 minutes ago
    there might be 8 billion GPUs in the world by 2040 but they will be controlled by 8 corporations across the world.
    • rbanffy 16 minutes ago
      “In our story contest, we ask people to imagine the future, evenly distributed.”
      • worldsayshi 12 minutes ago
        I think there are scenarios, however (un)likely that will lead us to this point. Imaging them and spreading such ideas can make that more likely.
  • GalaxyNova 28 minutes ago
    What will happen when everyone has access to a hot air balloon?
  • padolsey 54 minutes ago
    We humans will all be but API conduits for our respective AIs.
    • avaer 40 minutes ago
      One interesting formulation is that humans are the sex organs of AI.
  • peter_d_sherman 1 hour ago
    >"Someday, such as in 2040, there may be available, for every human being, the performance equivalent of 'a B300 GPU for contemporary LLMs'.

    What would this world be like?

    What will our world be like when (not if) every human being has access to the equivalent of a Fable or Sol LLM 24/7/365? Will this lead to a panopticon of indefatigable AI surveillance? Will education be revolutionized by infinitely patient tutors? Will social media cease to exist as we know it? Will healthcare be revolutionized by world class AI doctors and personalized medicines? What will happen in the oft-ignored developing world?"

    What great questions!

    These would be great questions to pose to a Creative Writing class, any Creative Writing class!

    Or heck, any Creative Writing class, Philosophy class, or Futurist!

    You know, there should be a web page, a time-capsule web page if you will, where people of 2026 ask questions about what specific future years will look like in terms of health, climate, politics, religion, currency, geopolitics, social media, news, education, etc., etc., and then all of these questions could be aggregated statistically into the most asked ones, and that could be preserved going forward in time...

    That's from a looking-forward-into-the-future perspective...

    We could, from a looking-backwards-into-the-past perspective, try to discover what people, in say 1900, thought about the future; what their specific concerns were, what their specific questions were... perhaps some historian or historians or books or (copied to) web pages out there contains some of this information somewhere...

    Which might be interesting to look at for comparison purposes...

    You know, "for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only...", to quote Charles Dickens' 1859 book, "A Tale Of Two Cities"... :-)

    • left-struck 44 minutes ago
      Back in 2023 I sent myself an email with some predictions about the future and my thoughts on LLMs at the time, good and bad. I can’t remember when it’s supposed to arrive though…
  • tucnak 1 hour ago
    Neal Stephenson is one of the judges. 40k seems like generous enough first prize. I wonder if they will accept a play.
    • gwern 1 hour ago
      > I wonder if they will accept a play.

      We will accept any words you think have a chance of being the best thing we will read about the premise of 'GPU World'. Because the premise is so specific, we wanted to leave participants a lot of freedom in how they used it.

      (Also a little bemused at the discussion of the grand prize amount here. $40k is a very generous prize for a short piece of writing. For perspective, the Commonwealth Short Story Prize, which you may have heard of recently, offers its global winner 1/6th as much; the last contest I ran offered 1/4th as much, and the contest before that was... 1/40th as much? And I didn't hear anyone complaining about them. For further perspective, $40k is about the median American per capita annual income: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_capita_personal_income_in_... )

      • avaer 1 hour ago
        > $40k is a _very_ generous prize for a short piece of writing

        Exactly. Not sure it will stop the inevitable torrent of slop, but it's generous enough that I think enough serious people will take it seriously that something interesting can float to the top. Can't wait to read (maybe write).

    • avaer 1 hour ago
      Also gwern and Matt Huang. Seems a pretty interesting committee.

      And 40K is enough for this to be taken seriously for producing 1000-5000 words.