Governments are making a dangerous bet on the AI boom

(economist.com)

42 points | by andsoitis 1 hour ago

9 comments

  • ducktective 24 minutes ago
    I wonder about Japan and Europe these days. Back in the 80s, when Japan was pursuing the "Fifth-Generation Computers", EU and US scrambled to compete with Japan. Like, it was a big deal for strategists and decision-making high-level politicians of that era.

    Now in 2020s, it seems only China is tailing US and in turn, US is wary of China. What gives?

    • JumpCrisscross 18 minutes ago
      > in the 80s, when Japan was pursuing the "Fifth-Generation Computers"

      “The Fifth Generation Computer Systems…was a 10-year initiative launched in 1982 by Japan's Ministry of International Trade and Industry (MITI) to develop computers based on massively parallel computing and logic programming” [1].

      That sounds an awful lot like GPUs and HBM.

      [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_Generation_Computer_Syst...

      • CamperBob2 6 minutes ago
        Except this time it works.

        A lot of what's happening now is the (very) belated delivery of what everyone was talking about when they talked about "expert systems."

    • applfanboysbgon 19 minutes ago
      Do you think Japan and the EU would be better off if our/their economies were centred around trillion dollar companies that make a product that is 20% better than the Chinese models at 1000x the cost?

      The reality is LLMs are just tools, and not even close to as revolutionary of tools as computers themselves. Even Chinese companies understand that. It is the US alone that is in machine god mania, gambling their economy on this idea that the next model will let them rule the world if only we give it three more months.

      • ducktective 11 minutes ago
        >Do you think Japan and the EU would be better off if our/their economies were centred around trillion dollar companies that make a product that is 20% better than the Chinese models at 1000x the cost?

        Why Japan and Europe don't develop a model that is 20% worse at 0.001x the cost?

  • gpt5 36 minutes ago
    It's private companies making a bet on the AI boom.

    What governments do (which is the actual content of the article) is betting on economic growth to exceed the growing debt.

    • UncleOxidant 34 minutes ago
      Which is their dangerous bet on the AI boom.
      • forgetfreeman 28 minutes ago
        Previously on We Bet On Unlimited Growth, the global financial meltdown of 2008. If I was even slightly less cynical I'd honestly wonder how many times they're going to stick a fork in the same outlet in my lifetime.
        • yxhuvud 22 minutes ago
          There was what? At least three boom and bust cycles involving railroads. Do we have any good reason to believe the computing revolution will be nicer? So far we've had one bust. We now know the topic for the second while the timing remains hard to guess.
    • missedthecue 31 minutes ago
      Betting on economic growth exceeding the piling up of debt is something most governments around the world have been doing for about 40 years straight now.
  • zekrioca 53 minutes ago
  • ares623 31 minutes ago
    A "bet" implies there's a risk of losing if it doesn't play out. As far as the individuals in the Govt and the involved companies are concerned, there is no risk for them. It's not their money, and the individuals will come out much better off regardless of outcome. It is simply a good investment.
    • peyton 24 minutes ago
      Further, Uncle Sam can always service dollar-denominated debt.
  • j45 32 minutes ago
    Curious: Is there any technologies and their adoption that were successful that Economist was wrong, or right about?
    • RachelF 12 minutes ago
      Many. They did an overly generous self examination a few weeks ago.

      Generally, they are a trailing indicator, like someone appearing on the Forbes millionaire under 30 list (Theranos, FTX). However, they are not always wrong.

      Think of Economist writers as intelligent interns - people who couldn't make it in the world of finance, and with a particular ideological bent imposed on them by their editors.

    • looksjjhg 15 minutes ago
      So you don’t listen to the weather or use weather apps?
  • johnsmith1840 53 minutes ago
    Link?
  • aaron695 45 minutes ago
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  • bpodgursky 19 minutes ago
    It's not a bet.

    The counterfactual was never "cutting pensions and medicare". That wasn't on the table and no government would ever commit suicide and pass it. It was either, spend until the economy completely collapses under the weight of debt and hyperinflation, or do exactly the same thing but pray for a miracle while doing so.

    So, we're doing the second one.