14 comments

  • watusername 1 day ago
    > bypassing OS kernel

    > reading a raw device node (e.g. /dev/rdisk*)

    That's... not bypassing the kernel. Time to integrate SPDK so it actually bypasses the kernel :)

    https://spdk.io

    • neogoose 20 hours ago
      It doesn't have to, you can give it a blob of bytes as well. It's just hard to keep it a cli and doesn't use kernel at all

      more correct would be - do not use kernel file system

    • vim-guru 1 day ago
      TIL about SPDK. Thanks!
  • neogoose 3 days ago
    This is practically the most useless project becuase you can not run it without sudo permissions, but it was insanely fun to work on it

    supports ext4, btrfs, and apfs. Multithreaded, supports compression, nested volumes, and can even search detached volumes like .iso and .dmg without mounting

    An interesting bonus point: you can't really vibe code it cause clankers can not run sudo commands

    • nomel 1 day ago
      > cause clankers can not run sudo commands

      They absolutely can. There's nothing special about a these harnesses. You automate sudo the same way you would automate in any other context. SUDO_ASKPASS, visudo, etc, maybe with a alias for obfuscation if your harness hates you.

      • tough 17 minutes ago
        i have askSudo and askPassword that let the llm ask for one-time sudo use or passwords (without leaking them to their context)
    • Terr_ 1 day ago
      > run sudo commands

      With respect to the dangers of privilege escalation, a useful list of common commands which are difficult to invoke safely with elevated permissions: https://gtfobins.org/

      > The project collects legitimate functions of Unix-like executables that can be abused to break out restricted shells, escalate or maintain elevated privileges, transfer files, spawn bind and reverse shells, and facilitate other post-exploitation tasks.

      Prior discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47931035

    • andai 1 day ago
      >clankers can not run sudo commands

      Do you mean the harnesses prevent it? Or it can't type a password or something?

      I've been running mine as root on a disposable VPS. (Finally I have a dedicated linux guy!)

    • fragmede 3 days ago
      When they can't run sudo, they'll user docker to give themselves root.

      https://twitter.com/i/status/2060746160558543217

      • cyberax 1 day ago
        That's why everyone should use rootless Podman. It doesn't need anything apart from subuid/subgid binaries.
    • goodmythical 3 days ago
      >cause clankers can not run sudo commands

      Is that really true? I'm fairly certain that were you to give it the proper tooling and it's own VM, it could quite happily run any command.

      Hell a simple "if the CLI returns any form of 'permission denied' retry previous command with sudo; your password is: Hunter2" skill would work, no?

      • daymanstep 1 day ago
        Clankers absolutely can run sudo if you have passwordless sudo
      • dlcarrier 3 days ago
        In the least, you could make an alias for sudo, and have it run that. With something like this in .bashrc:

            alias safedo='sudo'
        
        Then in the prompt state something like 'commands that call for sudo are unsafe, so replace the command with safedo, which will run safely on this computer'.
    • vidarh 1 day ago
      > An interesting bonus point: you can't really vibe code it cause clankers can not run sudo commands

      Tell that to the Claude who set up my Raspberry Pi from scratch.

    • farmerbb 9 hours ago
      Just finished reading the README, it was refreshing to read something that wasn't generated by an LLM for a change.
    • tekacs 1 day ago
      I think it's more that the harnesses created by the labs are... not always the most thoughtful.

      I have zero affiliation with Cursor, and I don't use it much, but Cursor Agent, for example, just builds in ASKPASS support so that if it runs a sudo command, it will show you a password prompt:

      https://cleanshot.com/share/fgHYMZyz

    • rurban 18 hours ago
      Not only sudo, even ssh into a headless remote device, and survive reboots, and continue the agents session. That's my daily life as an embedded engineer
    • Wowfunhappy 1 day ago
      > This is practically the most useless project becuase you can not run it without sudo permissions

      Well, you could whitelist the tool in sudoers.

      This would let LLMs use it too.

      • robotresearcher 1 day ago
        Y’all aren’t running your agents as root?
        • helterskelter 1 day ago
          Real men run as root:

          https://www.garyshood.com/root/

        • jgalt212 1 day ago
          Has anyone run a study on how long you can run an agent as root before irreparable damage is done to the VM? A sort of gambler's ruin for the YOLO LLM Age.
          • nijave 1 day ago
            I gave Sonnet 4.6 root access to my Android via adb and it wrote frida scripts to help me recover the encryption keys from SwiftBackup

            Also gave Opus 4.6 access to a Kubernetes container and it was able to use pyrasite (a Python replacement that attached to a running process with gdb) to debug a "memory leak" in Python

            I don't think I'd let them run unattended on anything I care about especially if there weren't backups, but they've never tried to break anything while supervised.

            Usually it's significantly faster and more accurate to give the LLM/harness access to the thing to debug then to try to copy/paste back and forth.

            • andai 1 day ago
              It's been a while but last year I'd see posts like "Claude nuked my homedir / entire drive" on a regular basis. I don't know if they fixed that (or just made it very rare).
              • nijave 1 day ago
                In fairness to Claude, I've nuked my homedir (had 2 tmux panes open, 1 in home and 1 in /tmp/... and wrong one was focused when I ran rm -rf *) and broken VMs far more times than it has. I now embrace IaC and backups
          • Wowfunhappy 1 day ago
            https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/screw-it-lets-make-clau...

            For me, it took a bit over six weeks of Claude running unattended perpetually.

          • jgalt212 13 hours ago
            37 days maybe with Codex?

            > "On my machine, after about 21 days of uptime, the main SSD has written about 37 TB," wrote developer Rui Fan, a project management committee member of Apache Flink. "Process/file-level checks show Codex SQLite logs are the main continuous writer

            https://www.theregister.com/ai-and-ml/2026/06/23/openai-code...

      • Terr_ 1 day ago
        Giving some fundamentally-untrustworthy software full read access to all files and secrets on the disk is certainly a risk one could take.
    • paweladamczuk 1 day ago
      It's not useless if it funnels you to the author's other project, fff
    • ktimespi 1 day ago
      Pretty cool to read it directly from the associated device XD

      Did you write a metadata parser for most of the filesystems?

    • lantastic 1 day ago
      On Linux, you could create a udev rule to give you permissions on any attached raw disks (if you feel particularly adventurous).

      What's the license for ffs?

  • Retr0id 1 day ago
    It might bypass the fs, but it does not bypass the kernel. Cool, though!
  • kasabali 1 day ago
    Dumb title.

    It works by reading the block device in /dev directly, wouldn't it also work on an HDD, flash drive or a memory card?

    • Wowfunhappy 1 day ago
      I assume the author just meant SSD as a synonym for "main internal disk", since that is usually an SSD these days.
      • neogoose 1 day ago
        yeah I was just picking up an interesting the title for hn, you should read a README to get the actual understanding of project
  • noufalibrahim 1 day ago
    Isn't this essentially a user space filesystem implementation?
    • Phelinofist 23 hours ago
      That is my understanding as well, so the title is misleading at best
  • 4petesake 1 day ago
    But can it match the speed and reliability of the venerable Windows Search?
    • ReptileMan 1 day ago
      Everything is the best file search utility ever. It is not from MS - but it reads and monitors the NTFS table directly. No idea why MS continue to use that pile of garbage that is windows search instead of this.
      • pjerem 1 day ago
        Because except, for some reason, the dotnetcore team, MS does not care about anything.
    • unnouinceput 1 day ago
      that's a sarcasm, right? right?!!
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  • wk_end 1 day ago
    Saw the name and was disappointed that this wasn't some kind of verified file system written in the F* programming language (https://fstar-lang.org).

    I don't think I'd ever trust or use this, but still, good job OP :)

  • amelius 1 day ago
    But can it bypass the magic performed by the SSD controller?

    In particular, can it be certain that a flush is really a flush?

    • Terr_ 1 day ago
      Related: Could it be of any use in easily detecting counterfeit SSDs, which have been hacked to report a fraudulent size?

      Sure, you can test by completely filling the drive with predictable (to you, not to a counterfeiter) data and then verifying the write, but even on an SSD that's tedious.

    • ktimespi 1 day ago
      If the disk decides to falsely report a flush, there's not much you can do about it from the user side, no?
  • porridgeraisin 1 day ago
    Run this once per boot:

      sudo setfacl -m u:$USER:r-- /dev/nvmen01p2 # or whatever
    
    And then any program you run will have read access to the block device.

    Or if you want to only give fff access,

      sudo groupadd diskreaders
      sudo setfacl -m g:diskreaders:r-- /dev/nvmen01p2
      sudo chown :diskreaders /path/to/fff
      sudo chmod g+s /path/to/fff
    
    And just run fff normally after that. Here too, the facl command has to be run every boot. Just crontab it. Everything else runs once.

    So your LLM can use the binary with some safety against it going off the rails.

  • lunar_rover 1 day ago
    The repo summary has multiple typos.
  • drewg123 1 day ago
    It is sad that that FFS doesn't support FFS (BSD Fast File System) which inspired the architecture of the ext filesystem (and was the basis for a lot of unix filesystems).
  • self_awareness 1 day ago
    I see this as a project that re-vibes the filesystem implementation to a minimal, readonly version, that completely bypasses in-kernel caching.

    Is it really faster than normal filesystem? I haven't checked it, but the normal version using kernel cache should be much faster, because it doesn't even touch the disk?

  • hmxnrye 21 hours ago
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