15 comments

  • northernsausage 1 hour ago
    Story heavily edited by AI about an AI company with an AI product that makes AI videos that is closing so they can spend money on some other AI product. All seasoned with some AI goop images. I hate the future.
    • keiferski 1 hour ago
      You forgot the AI readers and AI commenters.
      • simonreiff 1 hour ago
        ...You're absolutely right!
        • keiferski 56 minutes ago
          Would you like me to give you five reasons why you forgot AI commenters and AI readers?
    • Maken 1 hour ago
      I specially like the graph-looking picture with no axis, no data and no context.
      • hk__2 1 hour ago
        The context is the text below and under it. The axis doesn’t matter, it’s the shape that does.
        • sceptic123 0 minutes ago
          but not if it's entirely made up
    • lionkor 1 hour ago
      vibe coded website too -- I waited 4 seconds for it to load
      • Glawen 1 hour ago
        At least it loaded, it did not on my side.
    • aledevv 1 hour ago
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  • danbruc 52 minutes ago
    How many seconds of video did they generate per day for those $15,000,000, i.e. what would it actually cost me to generate, say, a three minute music video for my garage band? This should probably take into account how many attempts I would likely need to arrive at something I am satisfied with.
    • goalieca 6 minutes ago
      How many minutes would you generate to finally land on your 3 minute final copy?
  • keiferski 1 hour ago
    I would be curious to know if there is actually as much business economic demand for AI video compared to images (logos, product graphics, etc.) or text (blogs, content everywhere, etc.)

    My impression is that video is too complex to easily fit into an AI pipeline. Either you need something highly specific, like your own product’s UI. Or you need something personable and consistent, like someone talking into his camera.

    • vinodpandey7 1 hour ago
      Exactly the gap Sora never bridged — impressive output, no clear workflow integration for businesses. Images slot into Canva, Figma, ads. Video had no equivalent home.
    • boredhedgehog 56 minutes ago
      The aspiration is to replace the movie industry. That's a lot of demand.
      • bot403 45 minutes ago
        As a movie consumer I am not interested in AI movies. You don't get to just keep the existing market and switch to AI. You are creating a new market of AI video consumers and hoping it's big enough.
      • keiferski 53 minutes ago
        But demand from whom? I feel like the biggest moneymakers in that industry are explicitly anti-AI.

        General business stuff like content or images has demand from across the economy. “Replace Hollywood” is kind of a niche thing.

    • northernsausage 1 hour ago
      As a product photographer/videographer - No its not good enough to understand products so each scene its different, you can't storyboard or collaborate with it,. For high end products (where the money is), colour shape, scale matter and its just not consistent enough for professionals. For cheap tiktop slop products is fine because what arrives it never what you ordered anyway.

      The files are a pig to try and edit as well, making them beyond the generation and prompt costs expensive. At that point you might as well go and just film the ad.

    • spiderfarmer 1 hour ago
      People are already using it to automate TikTok ad campaigns.
  • santiagobasulto 1 hour ago
    But doesn't $15M/day of inference cost imply "demand" from users? If this is the case, it's just a matter of time until costs can be reduced.
    • MrGilbert 1 hour ago
      > If this is the case, it's just a matter of time until costs can be reduced.

      Is it, though? We cannot predict technological advancement, and the times of ̶M̶u̶r̶p̶h̶y̶'̶s̶ ̶L̶a̶w̶ Moore's Law* for computational power are long gone. There is simply no guarantee that the costs will go down enough.

      * thanks lucianbr!

      • lucianbr 1 hour ago
        Moore's Law.

        The times for Murphy's Law for computational power are just beginning.

      • kukkamario 1 hour ago
        I think there is plenty of room to make AI inference much more energy efficient. For example, there are companies testing creating custom silicon to run the model. Once that technology matures and we have some "good enough" models for normal use, inference cost for non-bleeding-edge models can come way down.

        I don't expect bleeding-edge models to become any cheaper, but previous generation models can potentially be really cheap.

    • yifanl 1 hour ago
      Disneyworld has lines longer than the park can manage for decades, do you expect it to just be a matter of time until park management finally figures out how to queue people efficiently enough, or do you think the solution will be once again raising costs for the customer.
    • pjc50 1 hour ago
      The actual revenue was quoted at $2.1m .. total. Ever.

      It would require multiple order of magnitude cost reductions to make that worthwhile. Maybe another few decades of Moore's law, if we have that left.

      This was the Moviepass model of selling $10 bills for $9.

      • rsynnott 45 minutes ago
        Much worse, really; it was selling $10 bills for half a cent.

        The Moviepass thing, I think if you were kinda gullible you could maybe buy into it eventually working on scale. This could never work on scale.

    • hk__2 1 hour ago
      > But doesn't $15M/day of inference cost imply "demand" from users? If this is the case, it's just a matter of time until costs can be reduced.

      If you build a website that gives $100 for free to each one of your users, you’ll quickly have "demand" but that’s not "a matter of time until costs can be reduced".

    • rsynnott 46 minutes ago
      Costs would have to be reduced about 2,000 times just to break even, assuming that inference was the only cost, which of course it was not.
    • PunchyHamster 1 hour ago
      The "matter of time" is getting more and more expensive, not cheaper, at least for next 2 years
      • brazzy 1 hour ago
        Not sure what you're referring to. If you're talking about inference cost for frontier models, that's going up because researchers keep pushing those frontiers, often without considering cost. And while they're subsidized (to gain market share), users have no reason NOT to use the crazy expensive frontier models.

        Once the market consolidates, and users get used to the idea of using models that are "good enough" because frontier models are too expensive, there's no reason AI cannot be profitable.

        • zarzavat 1 hour ago
          There's not much profit in inference, it's heavily commoditized. There is an illusion of potential profitability because the closed-weight models are currently a step ahead of the open-weight models. However, if you ignore the closed-weight models, then the open-weight models are also getting better every year. In the limit, the open-weight models will end up just as good as the closed-weight models.

          AI is an inverse gold rush, the people who are getting rich off it are the people using it. The shovel-sellers are screwed.

    • written-beyond 1 hour ago
      Yes but it was capped by their restriction on sign ups/registrations. That could've easily been in the hundreds of millions if the app had public signups.

      Idk if Instagram would exist if they were spending hundreds of millions a day.

    • stickynotememo 1 hour ago
      Why would demand imply costs will be reduced? If you're making an economies of scale argument, there's plenty scale right now, and costs don't seem to be trending down.
    • vinni2 1 hour ago
      It could be over provisioned or that cost is supposed to be minimum cost with some minimum capacity which was never reached.
    • abuani 1 hour ago
      Costs were reduced to $0. Can't get better then that for a product that OpenAI had no clue how to monetize
    • newsclues 1 hour ago
      I’ll eat lots of free samples at Costco of foods I’d never pay money for
      • bonesss 1 hour ago
        A box that says "Free T-Shirts" can create near-infinite demand.

        Paying near-infinity dollars for T-Shirts people want for $0 isn't a profitable business model.

        Demand side price sensitivity impacts potential supply side margins.

    • vinodpandey7 1 hour ago
      "Fair point — but Sora's downloads dropped 66% peak to Feb 2026 while costs stayed constant. Demand wasn't actually there to justify the infrastructure."
    • imron 1 hour ago
      Make a loss on every sale but make it up in volume!
  • MrGilbert 1 hour ago
    I would assume that the economic reasoning, if looked at it without dollar bills covering their eyes, would apply to AI in general the way we are using it.
  • Bolwin 1 hour ago
    This page reloads infinitely for me, can't see it
  • prodigycorp 1 hour ago
    I'm sorry to be this guy but this is an incredibly poor quality article. False structure (thesis/evidence), links to poor quality sources, and a non-examination of the core thesis, which is that it's burning too much money.

    $15m/day inference? How was that calculated? Forbes? Did they get it right? Is that a reasonable estimate? Still valid? How was revenue calculated?

    IMO most of the votes had to come from some vote ring (35 pts in 35 minutes for a crap article, no way.)

    • Mashimo 1 hour ago
      Yeah, it's not very good.

      Even the basics:

      > Every second of video requires rendering hundreds of individual frames

      Was probably only 24 or 30 frames, not multiple hundreds per second.

    • orwin 41 minutes ago
      The website is worse than anything I've made, and I'm a backend/network/system guy.
  • lajisam 1 hour ago
    The website keeps refreshing for me
  • brador 1 hour ago
    Those who want to generate AI videos are price sensitive and quality sensitive.

    Sora was neither.

  • yanhangyhy 1 hour ago
    strange seedance is not mentioned.
    • vinodpandey7 1 hour ago
      Good catch — Seedance deserves its own analysis, kept scope to Sora's direct competitive set here.
  • suck-my-spez 1 hour ago
    Website built with AI, infinite loads
  • vinodpandey7 1 hour ago
    "Seeing some reports of the page refreshing — apologies, seems like the traffic is overwhelming my Blogger setup. Working on it."
    • prodigycorp 1 hour ago
      > "Seeing some reports of the page refreshing — apologies, seems like the traffic is overwhelming my Blogger setup. Working on it."

      You forgot to strip the quotes from llm claude response.

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