18 comments

  • beloch 1 hour ago
    The U.S. government shutdown has halted pay to the TSA, but not ICE, so ICE is taking over from the TSA in airports[1]. If you fly to the U.S., starting Monday apparently, the first think you're likely to see is masked gunmen giving you the eye.

    No thankyou.

    [1]https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cede0qyvqz3o

    • nandomrumber 1 hour ago
      Would anyone argue that the TSA, Theatre Security Agency, shouldn’t be defunded?
      • Macha 1 hour ago
        Replacing it with nothing in an orderly fashion? Probably a good move.

        Replacing them with ICE as a political gesture? Not so much

      • derf_ 46 minutes ago
        The TSA is responsible for more than just airports. As someone with family who works (worked) on port security in the maritime division, I would argue that Chesterton's Fence [0] applies here just as much as anywhere else.

        [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._K._Chesterton#Chesterton's_...

      • hmmokidk 1 hour ago
        This isn’t that.
      • tombert 1 hour ago
        There's an argument for that, though I think replacing it with Trump's basically-unregulated private military is pretty concerning.
    • taneq 1 hour ago
      I feel like "form your own private paramilitary organisation with minimal oversight, then expand their reach by having them take over the operations of other government departments" has been done before somewhere, as part of a larger plan.
      • nclin_ 1 hour ago
        This is a historical pattern: Bringing border forces to bear against your own population, because those border forces are trained to deal with people who don't have the rights of the state.
      • gotwaz 50 minutes ago
        They dont have all the skills to do anything super complex in a sustainable way. Already proved in the first term. What their existence demonstrates is winning election is not super complex if you can find enough groups to precisely target and pander/capture attention. Social media has been a force multiplier for such behavior and the people that have emerged dont have any other skill other than attention capture. But thats short term win like full focus on marketing while product and operations have no hope of catching up. Every "large plan" will fail. Large plans in complex ever changing environments always need massive cooperation of very different skills. Never happens sustainably with just one skill dominating all.
        • mattoxic 41 minutes ago
          They dont have all the skills to do anything super complex in a sustainable way.

          And that's stopped them?

          • gotwaz 6 minutes ago
            We know the answer. Whats stopping ebola or a hurricane from over running everything?
      • encrypted_bird 1 hour ago
        It has. (Unless you're being sarcastic, in which case I'm not surprised it went over my head. Lol.)
        • ajkjk 1 hour ago
          of course they were
          • encrypted_bird 1 hour ago
            Hey, tone doesn't translate well over text, they did not use anu tone tags, and I'm already terrible at reading tone in the best of times. Lol, can you really blame me for at least asking? Haha.
    • diego_moita 49 minutes ago
      It will be so much fun to watch the World Cup from outside the US...
    • fundad 49 minutes ago
      Enter the country and you interact with CBP and that hasn't changed. CBP agents are the ones who murdered the legal observers in Minneapolis so there's that.

      TSA checks bags for commercial airlines which is a service that should never have been nationalized.

      • jordanb 47 minutes ago
        It would really be amazing if the end result of all of this is the post-9/11 DHS finally gets reverted back to what we had before.
    • bdangubic 1 hour ago
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      • ohyoutravel 1 hour ago
        TSA is mostly people who want a job and act pretty professionally in the hundreds or thousand times I’ve encountered them. ICE encourages people with anger issues who hate brown people to apply. These are not the same.
        • bdangubic 1 hour ago
          it isn’t about people and which group is mostly this or that. Americans have long accepted to have their Constitutional Rights violated at the airports so it really doesn’t matter if it is TSA or ICE or whatever three-letter gang runs it
          • andrewflnr 1 hour ago
            This is binary thinking that has no place in predicting the real world. In practice, the specific person violating your constitutional rights makes a big difference in how badly your rights are violated.
    • AceJohnny2 1 hour ago
      > So ICE is taking over from the TSA in airports

      It's even more disgusting than that:

      "Tom Homan: ICE officers will not assist with airport security scanning amid TSA staffing shortage"

      https://thehill.com/policy/transportation/5795316-homan-ice-...

      • bananalychee 54 minutes ago
        I can't tell what's supposed to be disgusting about this unless you stopped reading past the inflammatory headline.
  • cdrnsf 1 hour ago
    Funny, everyone outside of the US should exercise increased caution when dealing with or visiting the US.
    • Arubis 1 hour ago
      Also, everyone within the US already should exercise increased caution.
    • 1over137 1 hour ago
      Or better yet: don't visit the USA at all.
      • cdrnsf 1 hour ago
        Indeed, particularly given that ICE agents are going to be deployed to airports. Their penchant for killing civilians and otherwise violating civil rights only to lie about their actions hardly seems like a good fit for airport security duties they haven’t been trained to perform.
        • encrypted_bird 1 hour ago
          > duties they haven't been trained to perform

          Which implies they've been trained?

          • cdrnsf 18 minutes ago
            Fair, they haven’t. I wonder how long it will take them to use tear gas when the line at a Starbucks kiosk gets a little too long.
        • nandomrumber 1 hour ago
          [dead]
    • pier25 1 hour ago
      I travelled to the US some weeks ago and was anxious but everything turned out ok. I'm happy I don't have to go back any time soon.
      • JPKab 59 minutes ago
        Translation:

        Your fears were unfounded paranoia fueled by sensationalist media and that's why everything was fine but instead of correcting your priors you're just assuming you "got lucky".

        The media induced derangement on display here is fascinating.

        • pier25 31 minutes ago
          I won't share personal details but you couldn't be more wrong.
        • surgical_fire 57 minutes ago
          Or maybe he just got lucky.

          Impossible to prove otherwise. No reason to try his luck.

        • dotancohen 52 minutes ago
          [flagged]
          • JPKab 36 minutes ago
            I worked in the Pentagon for 10 years, and got my beak wet with neural nets there very early, back when we were using Playstation 3s for their GPUs.

            I was staunchly against the Iraq war, but even when Bush was president I didn't let it compromise my patriotism.

            The amount of people on here who ignore the fact that Iran was the primary enabler of Hamas' attack on 10/7/23, and therefore sowed the seeds of the destruction of Gaza, is insane. Basically, if Trump does a thing, they are against it, independent of the thing. There is no principle, just reactionary hatred. If Biden had launched this war, none of these people would have had a problem with it. I am 100% positive on that assumption.

            • galangalalgol 22 minutes ago
              It seems like about 20% of people judge the actions of a us administration independent of their partisan positions. I am recently joined and cannot claim it is from any virtue on my part. A backlash against an attempted autocratic takeover is a common starting point for successful ones by an opposing party. Leftist autocratic coups are only slightly rarer than rightist ones. We are in the middle of an attempted rightist one, but that doesn't mean we are safe if we remove them.
            • nozzlegear 14 minutes ago
              >If Biden had launched this war, none of these people would have had a problem with it. I am 100% positive on that assumption.

              I think you're wrong here. As a Biden stan who's gone to the mat debating Biden's policies here on HN many times in the past, he lost pretty much all of the remaining good will he had by defending and supporting Israel for so long after it became clear what they were doing in Gaza. Biden wouldn't be getting a free pass in the Middle East if it were helping Israel's goals (ignoring the fact that Biden is much more of a dove than Trump).

            • mcphage 7 minutes ago
              > Basically, if Trump does a thing, they are against it, independent of the thing.

              Because on top of doing terrible things, the non-terrible things he does, he does incredibly badly.

              > There is no principle, just reactionary hatred.

              No, we’re all good little Bayesians around here.

              > If Biden had launched this war, none of these people would have had a problem with it.

              You’re really missing what’s going on here. The reason that people liked Biden is that he would not have launched this war.

            • surgical_fire 20 minutes ago
              Oh yes, Iran enabled Hamas in a vacuum.

              Nothing happened prior to 10/07/23, no sir. Just an evil country doing evil things. Of course the US and Israel are victims on all this.

        • nandomrumber 32 minutes ago
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          • archagon 25 minutes ago
            What is “white culture”?

            I re-flagged OP.

    • honeycrispy 1 hour ago
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  • jazzpush2 1 hour ago
    Has there been any official WH note on the need for this war, yet? Or objectives?
    • mememememememo 1 hour ago
      This war is not a war. Not a.war war. Just a "war". No war has been declared.
      • briantakita 53 minutes ago
        We already won. Are you tired of winning yet?
    • bdangubic 1 hour ago
      20 or so far, there is a new one each day
      • nclin_ 1 hour ago
        Yes, they are flooding the zone with many alternative explanations so that they're both all deniable, and all accessible to anyone who finds just one of them convincing. This is a strategy.
      • giwook 1 hour ago
        And all of them different from the last and/or contradicting each other at times.

        It's like throwing spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks.

        • nandomrumber 1 hour ago
          Probably spaghetti.
        • cogman10 1 hour ago
          All I know is we are accomplishing them and we'll be done in 3 weeks to 3 years. Also, this isn't a woke war, which I was worried about.
    • dotancohen 1 hour ago
      It might have something to do with the nation which chants "Death to America" also developing nuclear bombs and ballistic missiles.
      • engcoach 14 minutes ago
        Why do they chant that? Is it due to acting against US interests in favor of another state, maybe one in the Levant?
        • nozzlegear 9 minutes ago
          What are you saying? Speak plainly so we don't have to guess.
      • MSM 17 minutes ago
        "Bombings will continue until you stop hating us"
  • ggm 58 minutes ago
    Would the current state of affairs qualify for cancelling the mid-terms? Is that overly cynical?

    Not in the US, not a US citizen or voter. My suspicion is the answer is "no, but it is not a given that a competent supreme court which looks likely to overturn the WH exists, if they say they want to do this"

    • atq2119 45 minutes ago
      AFAIUI, elections in the US are not run by the federal government but by the states.

      Trying to cancel elections seems like it'd be a lot harder than in other countries.

    • JPKab 28 minutes ago
      It's absolutely overly cynical and also evidence that you are completely misinformed.

      It's never happened in the entire history of this country, including when we literally had a Civil War.

      Your media sources are creating a belief in your head that is utterly deranged from reality.

      For example, ICE agents haven't "murdered legal observers" in any other locations than Minneapolis, despite the fact that they are operating all over the country. The reason for this is that the "legal observers" were actually super aggressive protesters in an environment that bordered on a riot due to the fact that local police were not creating a perimeter for these operations. Note that none of this has happened in Texas or Arizona or North Carolina or Florida, despite the fact that vastly more deportations are occurring in those locations. But your media doesn't tell you these details, does it?

      • zzrrt 10 minutes ago
        > Texas or Arizona or North Carolina or Florida

        All Red states. So if you roll over and let the federal government trample your state's sovereignty, they won't murder people in your state? Somehow I don't think that's what federalism was supposed to mean.

        Trump nearly passed out with glee when he was talking to the Ukrainian president and found out elections are canceled, by their law, due to martial law because of the war. I would not so casually assume he won't try it here.

  • softwaredoug 1 hour ago
    This is so non-specific to be meaningless.

    Like actually tell us what you know so we can make useful decisions about our safety.

    • alephnerd 1 hour ago
      > Like actually tell us what you know so we can make useful decisions about our safety

      "Americans abroad should follow the guidance in security alerts issued by the nearest U.S. embassy or consulate."

  • cogman10 1 hour ago
    Is this an orange, purple, or magenta threat level?
    • SlightlyLeftPad 1 hour ago
      Approaching ultraviolet, invisible to the naked eye but still very much a threat. “there is no war, only excursions.”
  • cmdrmac 1 hour ago
    My first thought: You don't say?
    • agnishom 1 hour ago
      Right? What kind of person does not follow the news but subscribes to the State Department notifications?
      • nandomrumber 50 minutes ago
        All the people who decided to stay in the Middle East even when the second carrier group was en route, and then thought they were news worth enough to get on camera and comment about there being no commercial flights out of there.
  • mrbombastic 1 hour ago
    Crazy how effective at making everything worse this admin has been.
    • arvid-lind 1 hour ago
      That's the strategy of Project 2025, make all the nice things we have much worse and broken so there's no choice but to scrap and start over. While they're in charge, of course.
      • MengerSponge 1 hour ago
        Showing that government doesn't work by making sure government doesn't work.
      • fundad 48 minutes ago
        Project 2025 and the Trump administration is the most success ant-growth movements have ever had.
    • stackghost 1 hour ago
      Trump is but a symptom of an underlying sickness. Things won't magically go back to normal after he dies.
      • JeremyNT 12 minutes ago
        Having somebody less incompetent, senile, and corrupt at the helm may not make things "magically go back to normal," but it's a step in the right direction. Necessary but not sufficient.

        Perhaps you'll be explicit though, what is the "sickness" you perceive?

      • nozzlegear 6 minutes ago
        Could you enlighten the class as to what you believe the underlying sickness is?
      • majormajor 1 hour ago
        Very few other people have Trump's ability to channel frustration in a nonspecific-but-charismatic way that connects the various extreme factions of the American right.

        None of those factions will be gone, but their battles will weaken their cause more than they have since 2016.

        Some of this can be seen by how even his own popularity falls any time he actually has power, since there are no effective ideas there, only misplaced blame, and that doesn't sustain support for four years. Without him there at all in an out-of-power period, the "blame the Jews"/"blame the brown people"/"blame the women"/"blame the baby-killers"/"blame the anti-Semites"/"blame the sexual deviants" factions will likely fail to find another person they all rally around.

        • goosejuice 9 minutes ago
          The extreme factions of the right are a very small portion of the electorate. They generally don't decide elections beyond the primaries and generally turn out in favor of the right regardless.

          Dems lean more on moderates/independents. Trump won because he persuaded that group, particularly the young men.

          https://www.thirdway.org/memo/why-republicans-can-win-with-t...

      • malfist 1 hour ago
        Did someone say they would?
        • lyu07282 53 minutes ago
          Many liberal people think he is an abberation, they would gladly return back to "normal". The point is, he is a symptom of a larger unaddressed sickness, there is no return to business as usual, it will only return far worse.

          To prompt with something more specific: there is a possibility of a Gavin Newsom vs. Tucker Carlson in 2028, it's crucial to understand why Tucker might win and why he would be ten times worse than Trump.

        • greenavocado 1 hour ago
          Most people think Trump is the lynchpin, when in fact, its his masters that decide what happens next.
          • andrewflnr 1 hour ago
            Even if he was, a lot of things have been destroyed that will take a lot longer to rebuild. Notably, trust.
          • stuaxo 1 hour ago
            It would delay things, he has a "charisma" that his followers look like.

            But it's true he is a symptom.

      • michaelhoney 1 hour ago
        It will be a lot harder to convince voters when he's gone... if the US still has elections
      • jb827 52 minutes ago
        America has neglected working class people for decades. The economy has shifted from supporting earning income to make a decent living, to protecting assets (bail outs etc.) Trump tapped into this and tricked these people into electing him, bringing along right wing or whatever they are.. and they got hold of power. Don't think numbers are there for this culture war crowd to stay in power unless they hitch a ride with someone. (edited: typo)
    • JPKab 1 hour ago
      You know what else would make everything worse? A totalitarian theocratic regime with long range ballistic missiles and nukes.

      But hey, it's not like they funded and backed a bunch of theocratic fanatics who committed a mass atrocity in Israel and provoked a war that destroyed Gaza or anything, right? Or that they were exporting massive quantities of drones to Putin for him to use to murder Ukrainian civilians, right? They were nice guys, and the 35K protesters they murdered deserved it, right?

      We should have just let things keep rolling the way they were. It was all going so well, and at no point would the regime that was actively inciting terrorism all over the world for the last 47 years be a threat if they got nukes on the ICBMs we now know they had been a problem. I mean, heck, those missiles they shot at Diego Garcia were just fireworks, purely for decorative purposes, right?

      The HN bubble is truly grand. My college girlfriend was the daughter of parents who fled the Ayatollah in 79. You people on here think everyone shares your values and worldview, and that the mullahs in Iran are rational actors. They are not. They are part of a specific sect of Shiite Islam that truly believes that bringing about an apocalypse is a desirable thing. It's such a foreign concept to you that you dismiss it as fantasy and misinformation. But it's real. And you simply lack the life experience to know it. You've never seen entire masses of people infected with the radical religious mind viruses that those of us with firsthand experience with religious fundamentalists have seen.

      Imagine the Branch Davidians in Waco with nukes, and you start to scratch the surface of what this would look like if you let it play out.

      • solid_fuel 54 minutes ago
        > A totalitarian theocratic regime with long range ballistic missiles and nukes.

        Man, imagine that, how scary. I bet in theocratic regimes there's a bunch of stupid stuff going on, like a ~Secretary~ Minister of ~War~ Defense that justifies an attack on a foreign nation by calling it a holy war and prays every time he gives a speech to the troops.

        Those theocrats probably do things like de-funding every science project they can when they get power. Or worse, maybe they think vaccines are against god's will and get a bunch of kids sick by opposing vaccines for preventable diseases. Hell they probably don't even teach their kids about evolution or gay people.

        Can you imagine if a nation like that had nuclear weapons and long range missiles? Why, they might start a war for no reason.

      • archagon 22 minutes ago
        47 years? What a convenient sounding number. Wonder where you got it from.
      • lyu07282 34 minutes ago
        I agree THAT ethno nationalist country in the middle east, with long-range ballistic missiles, secret nukes and a secret nuclear doctrine that hasn't signed any Non-Proliferation treaty should make everybody worried. But that country isn't Iran.

        It's the only country in the world with nuclear weapons that at this moment gets bombarded by missiles right now, if that doesn't make you worried you aren't paying attention.

      • mrbombastic 1 hour ago
        You certainly built a large strawman out of one sentence.
      • TacticalCoder 26 minutes ago
        > The HN bubble is truly grand.

        I feel the same. People have been brainwashed into hating people from their own countries (either the US or countries in Europe) so much that they'll rationalize islamism as a defense mechanism: when people chant "death to america" and burn american flags on campuses, they see nothing wrong.

        When there are "sharia patrol" cars driven by bearded men in a major US city, they see nothing wrong.

        When the mayor of NYC say it's now time for american citizens to "follow the teachings of Muhammad" (oh we could talk about his life), they still see nothing wrong. I think that mayor has been seen inviting a known terrorist recently too (don't have the link but I'm not surprised).

        We're talking about people who are rooting for a regime publicly hanging athletes for speaking against islamism and sending islamist guards into hospitals to finish the wounded.

        I'm 100% convinced that the islamist republic of Iran would nuke Israel with the atom bomb as soon as they'd have it. These people, just like Hamas, have sworn they'll erase Israel off the map.

        I'm not jewish but I know that after Israel, I'm next.

        It's sadly impossible to have a discussion with those refusing to see the inherent evil of islamism. And usually westerners people constantly refusing to criticize islamism tend to be the very same who defend feminism and who make, shamelessly, fun of christians (and I'm no christian either btw): go figure.

      • cogman10 55 minutes ago
        Yeah it's a good thing we dismantled that regime and totally didn't empower the most extreme and radical portion of it while removing the politicians who'd tempered that and turned the population against the US and Israel.

        But hey, at least we've lifted sanctions and we are now sending them even more money because the oil market was completely destroyed so that's great right?

        Obviously this is the best strategy because we can see how the Taliban was completely dismantled in Afghanistan after 20 years of occupation right?

        Unless you are proposing genocide of Iran or an eternal occupation, what we've done is kicked a hornets nest.

      • awnird 56 minutes ago
        Hey, you forgot “they hate us for our freedoms” in your propaganda spiel.
      • jghn 1 hour ago
        I honestly thought you were talking about the US in your first paragraph.
        • JPKab 50 minutes ago
          The narcissism of small differences on full display here.

          There isn't a single "red state" in the US that requires women to cover their heads and bodies in public or executes people for speaking out against the "regime".

          But you pretend like that's the case, while acting like Iran was just minding their own business when they have exported terror for decades, along with drones being used to murder Ukrainian civilians. I mean, I guess supporting Ukraine was soooo 2022-23, and now we're on to the new fashion trend of supporting the people helping to murder them because "orange man bad."

          • awnird 38 minutes ago
            Israel has killed more civilians than Russia and Iran combined.

            I don’t think your concern for civilian casualties is genuine.

    • elromulous 1 hour ago
      Agreed. But also why are you speaking like Yoda?
      • encrypted_bird 1 hour ago
        They're not; they're speaking colloquially: this is the word "It's" omitted from the beginning.

        ---

        *EDIT*: Corrected word. Lol.

        • rdiddly 16 minutes ago
          That's not what made it sound like Yoda. It was sticking "has been" at the end, and I agree there was a better choice stylistically: "Crazy how effective this admin has been at making everything worse."
          • mrbombastic 10 minutes ago
            Didn’t even strike me as weird phrasing. Or rather: strike me as weird phrasing it did not.
        • daemonologist 1 hour ago
          "It's," perhaps?
          • encrypted_bird 1 hour ago
            Yeah, nope, you're right. Not sure why my brain thought "The". Haha. I blame on the roughlu 2½ hours of sleep I got last night. Yay insomnia!
  • ceejayoz 1 hour ago
    I am tired of winning.
    • fouc 1 hour ago
      winning what?
      • toomuchtodo 1 hour ago
        One of President Donald Trump’s lines during the 2016 presidential campaign was his promise that, “We’re gonna win so much, you may even get tired of winning. And you’ll say, ‘Please, please. It’s too much winning. We can’t take it anymore, Mr. President, it’s too much.’ And I’ll say, ‘No it isn’t. We have to keep winning. We have to win more!’”

        https://www.c-span.org/clip/campaign-2016/user-clip-too-much...

        Trump says US is 'winning so much' in longest ever State of the Union - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhQUGjRtq-M - February 25th, 2026

        Hence the joke, "I am tired of winning." as the situation continues to rapidly degrade through policy choices. So much winning, it's too much.

    • calvinmorrison 1 hour ago
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      • jazzpush2 1 hour ago
        Would you qualify complaining about starting an unnecessary war as "whining"? Why? What about ICE agents killing American citizens? Adding unprecedented numbers to the federal deficit, etc.?

        How nice it must be to be able to just dismiss these things.

        • SanjayMehta 1 hour ago
          > How nice it must be to be able to just dismiss these things.

          I don't know anyone in the US in real life who is happy with the current situation, including people who voted for Trump. The cheer leaders are only visible online.

          The people who voted for Harris are saying "we told you so," and the others are saying "he conned us."

          • encrypted_bird 1 hour ago
            I'm not sure where you live, but try going to some of the super-small towns in the Midwest. I unfortunately still see people openly wearing MAGA hats and have MAGA flags on the flag poles in their yards.

            Trust me, as sad as it is, those people still exist.

          • cogman10 1 hour ago
            For the people I know, it's mostly just been quiet silence, they don't really want to talk about it (and I don't force it). I know this is uncomfortable for them.

            Outside that, what I've noticed in my area is a whole lot less trucks driving around with cartoonishly large American flags and pro-trump bumper stickers. Even homes that proudly flew the "Trump 2024" flags and flew the 2020 flags for a long time have taken those down.

            Republicans here (Idaho) have been gleefully touching every 3rd rail (Medicaid, public school funding, public lands). I don't really have hope that the electorate will do anything about it, but who knows. I've never really seen such bold actions against the citizenry.

          • stavros 1 hour ago
            I don't understand the "he conned us" stance. He was literally saying all these things before getting elected. He wasn't being coy about it, we all knew it would be terrible, and here we are. What was the con exactly?

            If there's one thing you can't accuse Trump of, it's ever masking how utterly nonsensical he is.

            • beedeebeedee 1 hour ago
              Saying “he conned us” is easier for people to accept than being introspective, taking responsibility and experiencing ego dissolution.
            • pasquinelli 1 hour ago
              i thought he was more anti-war
          • calvinmorrison 1 hour ago
            There are petty peevish folks too, to quote myself lately

            October 2025

            "I believe Trumps gutting of institutions of learning, culture, democracy, law is punishment for the Branch Covidians. I believe this punishment must continue for some time until the lesson is learned about abuse of power"

            Should we reconcile this great nation, not balkanize, not be in an antebellum period, not be a Weimar republic, and walk back the rubicon and cross into more quiet waters, we must turn our attention to what made this country great. What has made it unique? That our constitution is explicit about what freedoms and rights are reserved for the people and are not to be trampled, touched, or looked at by the government. State, Local, or Federal. Our founding fathers and great men who preceded us recognized government as a necessary evil, one that must be kept at bay, not used as a violent tool to achieve outcomes. All of these institutions must walk back their power, give the rights back to the people, to be truly afraid of the populace. Each tax collector must shiver when he goes to work, and each police officer be fully aware that a single parking ticket is an act of violence.

            All said, I am afraid, we have lost that. And now we must face the future hoping that someday, another group of smart men can realize something so unique, so right, so innately just and moral was achieved by the signing of the constitution that it must be tried again.

            Calvin - 2022

  • tombert 1 hour ago
    What the fuck was even the intended purpose of starting this war in Iran? Like in their mind, what was the best case scenario?
    • dotancohen 49 minutes ago
      Best case scenario was probably keeping nuclear weapons and basaltic missiles out of the hands of those who chant Death to America.
      • zzrrt 2 minutes ago
        But Trump already obliterated their weapons capacity last year! Were they lying then or now?
      • macintux 30 minutes ago
        Maybe ripping up the international plan to keep Iran from gaining nuclear weapons during his first term wasn’t the best idea.
      • engcoach 12 minutes ago
        That’s going to age as well as weapons of mass destruction in Iraq did. The reality is that only Israel was threatened by Iran and the US is caught up in it simply because we act as their vassal.
  • dzonga 1 hour ago
    why are common people paying for the incompetence of a gvt.

    to not be political this lies at the heart of principles, morals, meritocracy

    values that the current gvt lacks & things that drove america forward.

    • tremon 1 hour ago
      That's because the common people voted for the incompetent. Not being political either, of course.
      • dotancohen 1 hour ago
        In what part of the world does the populace not suffer for the incompetence of their leaders? St. Petersburg? Ramallah? Port Au Prince?
    • hsbauauvhabzb 1 hour ago
      People vote for the current government. I’m not sure why you would expect others’ to pay for americas internal messes, we’re already busy dealing with the external ones.
    • refurb 30 minutes ago
      The federal government hasn't passed a budget because the Democrats are blocking it. They feel it's worth the political gamble to cause Americans pain and that it'll turn on Trump.

      There you go - mystery solved.

  • bdangubic 1 hour ago
    I got jumped in Italy couple of weeks ago. I was wearing a "volleyball dad" hoodie my kid bought for me but did not realize that the "volleyball dad" is etched in the middle of a large American flag covering my entire back. Luckily (for him, not me :) ) three police officers were 10 meters away walking the area dealing with apre ski drunks and restrained him. fun times
    • razodactyl 1 hour ago
      Crazy does and crazy do. Be vigilant and try not to set these people off. There's no rhyme or reason, some people are just faulty in the head.
    • kylehotchkiss 1 hour ago
      oof I would not wear an American flag outside the country. We've hurt too many feelings. Like any good American though, a Canadian flag works.
      • stackghost 1 hour ago
        >Like any good American though, a Canadian flag works.

        Please don't do this.

      • nclin_ 1 hour ago
        people*
    • lyu07282 1 hour ago
      r/thathappened
  • drgo 1 hour ago
    A small price for demonstrating that our El-Douche is always right and a stable genius.
  • refulgentis 1 hour ago
    lol.

    The current situation has been giving me so many flashbacks. Here, my GWB-era teens had the terror threat level, and now we're lazily reimagining State Department traveling warnings as a dark slapstick version (be afraid everywhere, American!)

  • UltraSane 1 hour ago
    Trump wrecks everything he touches.
    • bradleyankrom 1 hour ago
      Bankrupting a casino is a literal thing he did and also a pretty decent metaphor for what he's doing now.
    • cindyllm 1 hour ago
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  • wileydragonfly 1 hour ago
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  • readitalready 1 hour ago
    When do we expect Iranians to actually attack US military bases outside the middle east? I heard there were already drones flying over bases in the US: https://wjla.com/news/local/unidentified-drones-fly-over-for...